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		<title>Comment on Sourdough Starter, Step-by-Step &amp; Side-by-Side: Intro by Paul</title>
		<link>http://yumarama.com/968/starter-from-scratch-intro/#comment-3714</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 May 2012 21:13:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Kate,

In te very first few days is when the flour soup is the most susceptible to being overtaken by unwanted growth since no one is actually &quot;in charge&quot; yet. It may simply be some mould spores came in off the jar itself, just happen to settle in and take over. Not to worry. You did the right thing at this early stage to toss and start again - as opposed to tossing because there&#039;s no (visible) activity which is what the pineapple juice method looks to avoid.

So boil some water and make sure all your equipment is very clean and start again. There&#039;s no particular reason this process shouldn&#039;t work for you. Seems you just picked up an unwanted hitchhiker along the way this time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Kate,</p>
<p>In te very first few days is when the flour soup is the most susceptible to being overtaken by unwanted growth since no one is actually &#8220;in charge&#8221; yet. It may simply be some mould spores came in off the jar itself, just happen to settle in and take over. Not to worry. You did the right thing at this early stage to toss and start again &#8211; as opposed to tossing because there&#8217;s no (visible) activity which is what the pineapple juice method looks to avoid.</p>
<p>So boil some water and make sure all your equipment is very clean and start again. There&#8217;s no particular reason this process shouldn&#8217;t work for you. Seems you just picked up an unwanted hitchhiker along the way this time.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Sourdough Starter, Step-by-Step &amp; Side-by-Side: Intro by Kate</title>
		<link>http://yumarama.com/968/starter-from-scratch-intro/#comment-3713</link>
		<dc:creator>Kate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 May 2012 15:11:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello,
I have followed the directions for the PJ version starter culture exactly. On the third day when I went to give the final flour and juice feed I was greeted by a thriving colony of fluffy white mold. Any suggestions? I have dumped the whole thing out to start again. I used fresh ground rye flour (I know this isn&#039;t necessary but I had some), kept the temp at pretty much a constant 80F (too high?) and used pineapple juice that I had in the fridge (not new, but still tasted good). I also kept the jar covered. 
Thanks for your help and great blog!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello,<br />
I have followed the directions for the PJ version starter culture exactly. On the third day when I went to give the final flour and juice feed I was greeted by a thriving colony of fluffy white mold. Any suggestions? I have dumped the whole thing out to start again. I used fresh ground rye flour (I know this isn&#8217;t necessary but I had some), kept the temp at pretty much a constant 80F (too high?) and used pineapple juice that I had in the fridge (not new, but still tasted good). I also kept the jar covered.<br />
Thanks for your help and great blog!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Sourdough: More than &#8216;San Fransisco&#8217; style bread by Paul</title>
		<link>http://yumarama.com/14/sourdough-more-than-san-fransisco-style-bread/#comment-3711</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 May 2012 00:06:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Rachael,

Sourdough base for pizza is not at all a &quot;new&quot; thing and in fact is how pizza - and most all leavened breads - originally were made before the advent of commercial yeast in the late 1800&#039;s. That said, it may not be &quot;new&quot; but it certainly is &quot;new again&quot; as artisanal attitudes come back to bread everywhere.

You will not find sourdough crusts on the Big Chain pizzas, they are in it for fast turnaround and sourdough is a slow process (comparatively). If you want to find a sourdough based pizza, you will need to hunt up small one-off pizza places that are interested in making quality product, not pumping out volume. They will likely have Pizza Napoletana styles, either Margherita and/or Marinara variants, far from the typical overloaded style found in chain or even most mom-and-pop places. 

Why? Because these types of pizza use much less toppings so they &lt;em&gt;have&lt;/em&gt; to use better ingredients as they aren&#039;t masked by sheer quantity. Also, the few toppings are there to enhance and balance with an exceptional crust as opposed to most pizza joints that use the crust merely as a vehicle to transport a load of toppings. Ergo, good dough is of prime importance and sourdough, when done correctly, is indeed good dough.

Margherita: tomato, buffalo mozzarella, basil and extra-virgin olive oil (note: no garlic or other spices)
&lt;a href=&quot;http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_zfmh-5Q5Ltw/S1uQZMP-tuI/AAAAAAAABRA/1i23WMs5w6E/s400/Pizza+Margherita+-+Tony&#039;s+Pizza+Napoletana.jpg&quot; title=&quot;Margherita photo&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;(Margherita photo)&lt;/a&gt;

Marinara: tomato, garlic, oregano and extra virgin olive oil (note: no cheese or other spices)
&lt;a href=&quot;http://tuscantraveler.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/Schermata-2010-03-06-a-19.32.48.png&quot; title=&quot;Image of Pizza Neapoletana Marinara&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;(Marinara photo)&lt;/a&gt;

You can find a LOT of info on pizza and its intricacies over at the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.pizzamaking.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;strong&gt;PizzaMaking.com&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/a&gt; website where pizza enthusiasts of all levels gather to talk pizza. You can probably find a discussion, somewhere in their vast forum, where someone mentions a sourdough-based pizza purveyor in your area that you can visit.

Good luck!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Rachael,</p>
<p>Sourdough base for pizza is not at all a &#8220;new&#8221; thing and in fact is how pizza &#8211; and most all leavened breads &#8211; originally were made before the advent of commercial yeast in the late 1800&#8242;s. That said, it may not be &#8220;new&#8221; but it certainly is &#8220;new again&#8221; as artisanal attitudes come back to bread everywhere.</p>
<p>You will not find sourdough crusts on the Big Chain pizzas, they are in it for fast turnaround and sourdough is a slow process (comparatively). If you want to find a sourdough based pizza, you will need to hunt up small one-off pizza places that are interested in making quality product, not pumping out volume. They will likely have Pizza Napoletana styles, either Margherita and/or Marinara variants, far from the typical overloaded style found in chain or even most mom-and-pop places. </p>
<p>Why? Because these types of pizza use much less toppings so they <em>have</em> to use better ingredients as they aren&#8217;t masked by sheer quantity. Also, the few toppings are there to enhance and balance with an exceptional crust as opposed to most pizza joints that use the crust merely as a vehicle to transport a load of toppings. Ergo, good dough is of prime importance and sourdough, when done correctly, is indeed good dough.</p>
<p>Margherita: tomato, buffalo mozzarella, basil and extra-virgin olive oil (note: no garlic or other spices)<br />
<a href="http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_zfmh-5Q5Ltw/S1uQZMP-tuI/AAAAAAAABRA/1i23WMs5w6E/s400/Pizza+Margherita+-+Tony's+Pizza+Napoletana.jpg" title="Margherita photo" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">(Margherita photo)</a></p>
<p>Marinara: tomato, garlic, oregano and extra virgin olive oil (note: no cheese or other spices)<br />
<a href="http://tuscantraveler.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/Schermata-2010-03-06-a-19.32.48.png" title="Image of Pizza Neapoletana Marinara" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">(Marinara photo)</a></p>
<p>You can find a LOT of info on pizza and its intricacies over at the <a href="http://www.pizzamaking.com/" rel="nofollow"><strong>PizzaMaking.com</strong></a> website where pizza enthusiasts of all levels gather to talk pizza. You can probably find a discussion, somewhere in their vast forum, where someone mentions a sourdough-based pizza purveyor in your area that you can visit.</p>
<p>Good luck!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Sourdough: More than &#8216;San Fransisco&#8217; style bread by Rach86</title>
		<link>http://yumarama.com/14/sourdough-more-than-san-fransisco-style-bread/#comment-3710</link>
		<dc:creator>Rach86</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 May 2012 17:05:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi, I&#039;ve just heard there&#039;s a new way to make a pizza with a sourdough crust. You know, that&#039;s the part on the bottom. I love the sourdough taste and think it&#039;s a great idea but I&#039;ve looked through half of Kentucky for a Pizza Hut that makes one or even knows how. 
Has anyone out there found one? Let me know?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, I&#8217;ve just heard there&#8217;s a new way to make a pizza with a sourdough crust. You know, that&#8217;s the part on the bottom. I love the sourdough taste and think it&#8217;s a great idea but I&#8217;ve looked through half of Kentucky for a Pizza Hut that makes one or even knows how.<br />
Has anyone out there found one? Let me know?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Pane Siciliano by Polly</title>
		<link>http://yumarama.com/1635/pane-siciliano/#comment-3708</link>
		<dc:creator>Polly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Apr 2012 17:57:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The glaze you are talking about comes from using hi tech ovens with steams. The breads get blasted (and I mean BLASTED with steam).   When you try to create your own at home its just not the same intensity.  I have made the breads myself and I get rave reviews on the taste , but you are right - the holes do not look the same as Peter&#039;s and I suspect it has to do with the steam oven.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The glaze you are talking about comes from using hi tech ovens with steams. The breads get blasted (and I mean BLASTED with steam).   When you try to create your own at home its just not the same intensity.  I have made the breads myself and I get rave reviews on the taste , but you are right &#8211; the holes do not look the same as Peter&#8217;s and I suspect it has to do with the steam oven.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Reviving Dried Sourdough Starter by dana</title>
		<link>http://yumarama.com/3000/reviving-dried-sourdough-starter/#comment-3706</link>
		<dc:creator>dana</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Apr 2012 18:05:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i&#039;ve two failed attempts at reviving dried starter. i think my tap water is killing it. could chlorine or fluoride or whatever be adverse? what can i do? don&#039;t want to have to resort to bottled water... and i tried this little filter we use for drinking water and it made no difference. has anyone been in this situation?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i&#8217;ve two failed attempts at reviving dried starter. i think my tap water is killing it. could chlorine or fluoride or whatever be adverse? what can i do? don&#8217;t want to have to resort to bottled water&#8230; and i tried this little filter we use for drinking water and it made no difference. has anyone been in this situation?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Reviving Dried Sourdough Starter by Paul</title>
		<link>http://yumarama.com/3000/reviving-dried-sourdough-starter/#comment-3705</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Apr 2012 06:59:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Stacey,

hard to diagnose the issue without being able to see what you have. One thing you mich want to do is add a bit more flour so you have a slightly stiffer starter that can trap the bubbles. if its too wet, it won&#039;t have the body to hold the bubbles and the gas just gently floats up and out. So add a little more flour (WW or whatever you prefer) just until you have a pancake batter like consistency. Keep in mind that a tablespoon of water plus a tablespoon of flour (or anytime you do equal VOLUME water and flour) is about 160% hydration which is pretty wet. If you do equal part water and flour BY WEIGHT, you&#039;ll see a much stiffer end result. A decent alternative is to use 1 part water (volume) to 1.75 part flour which will get you closer to the &quot;by weight&quot; equivalent.

Give your new starter that bit more flour and also give it another day or so before deciding it&#039;s gone off. The issue may be that your house is too cool - try to find a cozy spot for the starter, it will like about 75ºF (24ºC) so places like on top of the fridge (hot air from the coils in the back make that spot warmer), next to a machine that&#039;s on all the time (TV, computer, etc.) by a table lamp you can keep on all day... 

No you didn&#039;t do any harm by not freezing the dry starter. It would help keep dry starter more viable over not freezing when looking at years of storage, not just a couple of days.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Stacey,</p>
<p>hard to diagnose the issue without being able to see what you have. One thing you mich want to do is add a bit more flour so you have a slightly stiffer starter that can trap the bubbles. if its too wet, it won&#8217;t have the body to hold the bubbles and the gas just gently floats up and out. So add a little more flour (WW or whatever you prefer) just until you have a pancake batter like consistency. Keep in mind that a tablespoon of water plus a tablespoon of flour (or anytime you do equal VOLUME water and flour) is about 160% hydration which is pretty wet. If you do equal part water and flour BY WEIGHT, you&#8217;ll see a much stiffer end result. A decent alternative is to use 1 part water (volume) to 1.75 part flour which will get you closer to the &#8220;by weight&#8221; equivalent.</p>
<p>Give your new starter that bit more flour and also give it another day or so before deciding it&#8217;s gone off. The issue may be that your house is too cool &#8211; try to find a cozy spot for the starter, it will like about 75ºF (24ºC) so places like on top of the fridge (hot air from the coils in the back make that spot warmer), next to a machine that&#8217;s on all the time (TV, computer, etc.) by a table lamp you can keep on all day&#8230; </p>
<p>No you didn&#8217;t do any harm by not freezing the dry starter. It would help keep dry starter more viable over not freezing when looking at years of storage, not just a couple of days.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Reviving Dried Sourdough Starter by Stacey</title>
		<link>http://yumarama.com/3000/reviving-dried-sourdough-starter/#comment-3704</link>
		<dc:creator>Stacey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Apr 2012 23:59:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hi i got a dry starter from Carl Griffith&#039;s a few months ago. I let it sit on my desk for the entire time until 2 days ago when I tried to revive it. Im not sure if its OK, it doesnt seem to be doing anything. I followed all the steps: soaked 1/2 tsp start in a tbsp h2o, added water/flour per the instructions on Carl&#039;s website.I watched it for 24++ hours and nothing happened, maybe a tiny teeny bit of bubbles, hardly noticeable. SO I fed it a tbsp of WW flour and 1 tbsp water. lots of bubbles right away, but now back to nothing. It has a layer of watery stuff on top and sludgy stuff underneath. It smells alcohol-y but no bubbles. Any suggestions would be tremendously appreciated!!

Thoughts:
-did I ruin the starter by not freezing it?
-did I do something else wrong and should maybe try again with a fresh portion of the dry start?

thanks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hi i got a dry starter from Carl Griffith&#8217;s a few months ago. I let it sit on my desk for the entire time until 2 days ago when I tried to revive it. Im not sure if its OK, it doesnt seem to be doing anything. I followed all the steps: soaked 1/2 tsp start in a tbsp h2o, added water/flour per the instructions on Carl&#8217;s website.I watched it for 24++ hours and nothing happened, maybe a tiny teeny bit of bubbles, hardly noticeable. SO I fed it a tbsp of WW flour and 1 tbsp water. lots of bubbles right away, but now back to nothing. It has a layer of watery stuff on top and sludgy stuff underneath. It smells alcohol-y but no bubbles. Any suggestions would be tremendously appreciated!!</p>
<p>Thoughts:<br />
-did I ruin the starter by not freezing it?<br />
-did I do something else wrong and should maybe try again with a fresh portion of the dry start?</p>
<p>thanks!</p>
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		<title>Comment on All Flours Are Not Equal by Deborah</title>
		<link>http://yumarama.com/4266/all-flours-not-equal/#comment-3702</link>
		<dc:creator>Deborah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Apr 2012 19:47:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I appreciate the test results. I was looking in my cabinet last night wondering how it would work to use cake or pastry flour.
Now I know. Stick with the good gluten flours.
Thanks for the test kitchen results. You just made my life easier and I don&#039;t have to waste my time and money on these ineffective methods. 
Thank you for your help.
Deborah</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I appreciate the test results. I was looking in my cabinet last night wondering how it would work to use cake or pastry flour.<br />
Now I know. Stick with the good gluten flours.<br />
Thanks for the test kitchen results. You just made my life easier and I don&#8217;t have to waste my time and money on these ineffective methods.<br />
Thank you for your help.<br />
Deborah</p>
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		<title>Comment on I love Paris in the Springtime by Twinkle Teacher</title>
		<link>http://yumarama.com/4856/i-love-paris-in-the-springtime/#comment-3701</link>
		<dc:creator>Twinkle Teacher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Apr 2012 18:20:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Paris?!?!  What a treat!  I bet that makes you quite happy, and I&#039;m all about the happy.  Look for twinkles, follow the winks, find your happy.  ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paris?!?!  What a treat!  I bet that makes you quite happy, and I&#8217;m all about the happy.  Look for twinkles, follow the winks, find your happy.  <img src='http://yumarama.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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